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Old Jan 24, 2014, 12:32 PM // 12:32   #1
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Blood Bond suffers the same issue that Ash Blast has. Majority of the users of the skills are using them for their old versions. The Blood Bond buff and Ash Blast nerf is making PvE harder for many players.
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Old Jan 24, 2014, 03:44 PM // 15:44   #2
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i do agree with ash blast, but my hero uses blood bond as nice healing for minions, i never used the old one, so i like it the way it is
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Old Jan 24, 2014, 03:56 PM // 15:56   #3
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Revert elementalist update part 2. It was a terrible idea and didn't fix the issue with elementalists in Hard Mode at all. Part 1 with the Hard Mode fix was great, leave it at that.
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Old Jan 25, 2014, 12:43 PM // 12:43   #4
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Revert elementalist update part 2. It was a terrible idea and didn't fix the issue with elementalists in Hard Mode at all. Part 1 with the Hard Mode fix was great, leave it at that.
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on the other hand T go away ur not whalecum
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Old Jan 26, 2014, 11:24 AM // 11:24   #5
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Uh? I think Ash Blast is more interesting now and definately stronger in PvE. I still wouldn't use it though. Only for a fun team build maybe.

And who used Blood Bond in PvE before? Dunno but I think the change to it made it viable.
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Old Jan 28, 2014, 04:13 AM // 04:13   #6
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As long as we're dreaming about stuff ArenaNet will never do because they no longer touch the game, revert Holy Wrath and Spell Breaker.

I miss the old 600/smite.
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Old Jan 28, 2014, 10:05 AM // 10:05   #7
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As long as we're dreaming about stuff ArenaNet will never do because they no longer touch the game, revert Holy Wrath and Spell Breaker.

I miss the old 600/smite.
i dont care what they do with spell breaker, but no, dont let em change holy wrath, now that we can use it normally on heroes

(no offense, but why do so many people i see about and in gw, complain about farm builds being nerfed? instead of true problems called NORMAL paragons and smiting...... and ranger pets...... sry, just wondering)

note: i'm only talking (and caring) about pve
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Old Jan 28, 2014, 10:17 AM // 10:17   #8
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Uh? I think Ash Blast is more interesting now and definately stronger in PvE. I still wouldn't use it though.
How is it stronger as a skill that went from being considered meta to something that even snowflake build people won't touch?

And people are using Blood Bond when the only ones that benefit are spirits.
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Old Jan 28, 2014, 12:13 PM // 12:13   #9
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How is it stronger as a skill that went from being considered meta to something that even snowflake build people won't touch?

And people are using Blood Bond when the only ones that benefit are spirits.
When was blood bound considered meta in PvE? lol

btw. Minions benefit from it.
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Old Jan 28, 2014, 01:25 PM // 13:25   #10
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I was replying to what you said about Ash Blast.

Blood Bond cannot heal minions when there are none.
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Old Jan 28, 2014, 02:53 PM // 14:53   #11
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When was Ash Blast considered meta in PvE then?... I didn't even know Ele was considered Meta in PvE, lol. And I can't even imagine how a single target ele skill can be meta in PvE at all.

As far as I'm aware there is a certain minion build that was considered meta for a long time in PvE. I don't know why there wouldn't be minions...

Are you sure we are talking about the same thing? Or are you walking about PvP/some secret dungeon runs?
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Old Jan 28, 2014, 03:21 PM // 15:21   #12
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Ash Blast was used with Fevered Dreams and to a much lesser extent Extend Conditions on mesmers.

I think you're confused about what the topic is. They're not aiming to use Blood Bond for minions because they're using it as if it's the old skill.
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Old Jan 28, 2014, 05:59 PM // 17:59   #13
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is the reason that people want an old version of skills that they liked it more, or because of that so called meta?

either way, it dont see anything bad happened with the mentioned skills in this topic
sorry to disagree, but i have my own opinions
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Old Jan 29, 2014, 12:19 AM // 00:19   #14
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I agree with Ayu, I still don't even understand where Cuilan is coming from. There are good hero team builds and tons of variations for them without these skills (doesn't matter if the old or new version) that work perfectly for hardmode content in the game. For your particular example: Use Ineptitude+Panic Mesmer and you have the same effect but much much stronger.

Who are the people you speak of? Those who don't keep up with updates and thus utilising skills wrong beceause they changed? Why are you bring up the term "meta" then? I'm completly lost atm. o.O
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Old Jan 29, 2014, 04:42 PM // 16:42   #15
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(no offense, but why do so many people i see about and in gw, complain about farm builds being nerfed? instead of true problems called NORMAL paragons and smiting...... and ranger pets...... sry, just wondering)
No offense taken - I never really saw it as a farm build, to me it was a more fun way of vanquishing. Although I guess it probably still works for that... haven't tried it since I lost my main account.
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Old Jan 29, 2014, 11:07 PM // 23:07   #16
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Why are you bring up the term "meta" then? I'm completly lost atm. o.O
You mentioned it, not I.
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When was blood bound considered meta in PvE? lol
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Old Jan 30, 2014, 09:55 AM // 09:55   #17
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You mentioned it, not I.
Err? You posted this before:

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How is it stronger as a skill that went from being considered meta to something that even snowflake build people won't touch?

And people are using Blood Bond when the only ones that benefit are spirits.
No offense, but do you read what you write? I only jumped on the term meta because you entilted one of these two skills as considered as meta at one point.
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Old Jan 31, 2014, 11:17 PM // 23:17   #18
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You must feel very special in pointing that out. You still didn't know about Ash Blast and remained confused in most of the thread.
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Old Feb 01, 2014, 10:49 AM // 10:49   #19
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You must feel very special in pointing that out. You still didn't know about Ash Blast and remained confused in most of the thread.
Ok I'm out here. I don't want to offend anyone. But writing complete bullshit all the time, not explaining yourself and say wrong things about facts that happened ending it with insults as others point it out... Sorry that is too much. Please go on and mourn about the changes and I go play the game without having problems. -.-
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Old Feb 23, 2014, 11:36 AM // 11:36   #20
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On the other Side of the cake.

I think we all could say that Smiting Prayers definately needs a PvE/P Upgrade.

And Shadow Form shouldnt even be in this game.
I know, you know, we all know its the cause of serval severe market collapses.
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